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(01-04-2018, 08:21 PM)jtkung Wrote: It's becoming more viable as a real guitar rig:
Existing Windows laptop running Reaper and VST plugins
Cheap USB digital audio interface with MIDI
FCB1010 MIDI controller
10 or 12" PA speakers like the Alto TSA210
Can probably get all this for like $500 (not including the laptop which people already have). Pretty amazing.
I agree it’s getting more viable but I essentially gave up modeling and sending to a FRFR system in a live situation. Theoretically it should be great. I would get tones that sounded splendid in headphones and low volumes but when I got to the point where I had to compete with a band - it always sounded off and was difficult to hear. I started with one Alto 212, went stereo with 2, then went to Atomic CLRs. With Atomic I could cut through but kept getting comments that I sounded funny in several different bands from people who largely thought I was playing through an amp. I’ve gone back to a tube amp and pedals.
(01-04-2018, 08:21 PM)jtkung Wrote: It's becoming more viable as a real guitar rig:
Existing Windows laptop running Reaper and VST plugins
Cheap USB digital audio interface with MIDI
FCB1010 MIDI controller
10 or 12" PA speakers like the Alto TSA210
Can probably get all this for like $500 (not including the laptop which people already have). Pretty amazing.
I agree it’s getting more viable but I essentially gave up modeling and sending to a FRFR system in a live situation. Theoretically it should be great. I would get tones that sounded splendid in headphones and low volumes but when I got to the point where I had to compete with a band - it always sounded off and was difficult to hear. I started with one Alto 212, went stereo with 2, then went to Atomic CLRs. With Atomic I could cut through but kept getting comments that I sounded funny in several different bands from people who largely thought I was playing through an amp. I’ve gone back to a tube amp and pedals.
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Were you in a small gig situation or a much larger room? I think the modeler/FRFR excels at larger venues with a good PA and sound guy -- where there's control over the sound and direction. In smaller venues, I think it's a lot harder to get right and a tube amp works well enough and the sound guys are more familiar with it. Plus, the sound on stage is closer to what you want it to be.
(01-04-2018, 08:21 PM)jtkung Wrote: It's becoming more viable as a real guitar rig:
Existing Windows laptop running Reaper and VST plugins
Cheap USB digital audio interface with MIDI
FCB1010 MIDI controller
10 or 12" PA speakers like the Alto TSA210
Can probably get all this for like $500 (not including the laptop which people already have). Pretty amazing.
I agree it’s getting more viable but I essentially gave up modeling and sending to a FRFR system in a live situation. Theoretically it should be great. I would get tones that sounded splendid in headphones and low volumes but when I got to the point where I had to compete with a band - it always sounded off and was difficult to hear. I started with one Alto 212, went stereo with 2, then went to Atomic CLRs. With Atomic I could cut through but kept getting comments that I sounded funny in several different bands from people who largely thought I was playing through an amp. I’ve gone back to a tube amp and pedals.
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Were you in a small gig situation or a much larger room? I think the modeler/FRFR excels at larger venues with a good PA and sound guy -- where there's control over the sound and direction. In smaller venues, I think it's a lot harder to get right and a tube amp works well enough and the sound guys are more familiar with it. Plus, the sound on stage is closer to what you want it to be.
I think you may be right. My situation was in small rehearsal studios and small gigs where my guitar wasn’t going through the PA - just vocals. I think in a situation where the modeled guitar is going through the main PA and the FRFR is used as a stage monitor it would work. My issue with that scenario is it’s hard to dial in your sound before hand. However, I have read posts by people who do it . Most of the still favor a tube combo for small rooms though.
Just take some plugins from Neural DSP and Mercuriall (Euphoria) and with a powerful laptop and good audio interface -- I think there's no doubt you can gig with this and sound tremendous!
